Us- Rad wisdom, I feel bad now for getting a haircut the other day. Us- As one of the founding members of the Hair Force, you got any words of wisdom for the future Hair farmers of tomorrow? Him- Keep trimming those dead ends, natural oils keep the tangles away and wash less.

But this was fueled by hard work and something completely different. I guess it would have to be the trip to New Zealand. Us- You’re a soulful and spiritual cat in my book, and we’ve talked about Ayahuasca journeys in the past, when was the last time you had a mind bending exploration? Him- whoa, mind bending. Us- It may be the best though? Him- Hmmmm. It may be the worst creation ever, but I’m frothing to shape. Us- Would you now? Him- Yah for sure, I’m psyched to hack away on a bit of foam. Us- Have you ever grabbed the planer and hacked on foam? Him- Nah. Us- If anyone yelled out as they passed you by, “get a job longhair” what would you response be? Him- Why? Us- Solid. Us- You and your girlfriend Mia are quite the artistic power couple, have you ever collaborated on anything besides under the sheet artwork? Him- (chuckling) We’ve attempted a few things. Us- You a Black Sabbath man? Him- No, not really. Riding different crafts and being amazed with each of them. Just to be hooting the whole time in the water, having zero expectation because you’re trying new things.

It’s just more fun jumping from board to board and seeing where it wants to go. How are you finding they are affecting your surfing? I mean, are the boards pushing you or the other way around? Him- Yah, the boards are definitely pushing me for sure. Us- You have been experimenting with Chris Garrett on board designs, like finless and asymmetrical styles.

But, you have to take it all in, its that good of place. It gets a bit overwhelming, some of the things you come across. It’s the most beautiful place I’ve ever been to, also the coldest. Us- You were just in New Zealand surfing, traveling, backpacking and filming. Him- Jason Robert Salisbury and I’m a Scorpio.

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